Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[b]Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence by the LTTE[/b]
[b]Colombo, 13 April, (Asiantribune.com): [/b]The current escalation of the violence in the north and the east by the LTTE on the eve of the second round of talks in Geneva is seen by political observers as another failure of the Ceasefire Agreement brokered by Erik Solheim, the LTTE-friendly "facilitator".
At the first session of talks in Geneva held in February, Solheim was seen bending over backwards to appease the Tigers. He even upheld the position taken by Anton Balasingham that the recruitment of child soldiers was not in the Ceasefire Agreement. In siding Balasingham he ruled that both sides are free to recruit child soldiers, though this ruling is against the declared policies of the Norway and international law.
Norwegians Against Terrorism (NAT), a Norway based research centre, has pointed the finger at Norway for "opening the door" for the LTTE to carry on its violations of CFA and international law. It has documented the numerous instances where Norway has gone out of its way to back the LTTE, including fund raising in Norwegian territory and funding pro-LTTE websites and radio stations targeting Tamils in Norway and in Sri Lanka.
http://www.asiantribune.com/show_news.php?id=17620
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[quote="raguna"]
[quote]'....on the land which was captured by the French and British ...[/quote]
My history teacher also told me that modern day Iraq was created on the land captured by french and british. So the 'SMART' one should suggest that system to Canada too. Similarities!!!!![/quote]
Ask your history teacher!
According to your comment, your history teacher is the 'SMART' one.
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Your teacher may also tell tamils have claims to the Iraqi soil, because some tamil scholars found some"evidance" from mojendojara-harappen culture to support this claim. :wink:
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
Zulu,
The topic of the discussion was about spning of solheim.
You took it to conservative/liberal/ dictatior direction.
Then about baning of the LTTE in canada.
When that didn't work trying to take to HRW report.
Moving the goal post? We've seen that with SL gov. for the last 50 years.
Re: Racist statement
[quote="raguna"][quote="Zulu"][quote="raguna"][recent 'terrorist' list of Canada and related FAQ.....
Question - 5: If an individual provides money to a [color=red]front organization [/color]which is believed to be associated
Answer - 5: [color=red]No[/color], only donations to the LTTE are effected by this listing.
Isn't this confusion? If you say NO, then it is realy good for LTTE!!!!![/quote]
Neither Canada nor anybodyelse had any problem of money donations made to LTTE or any other organisation as long as it is VOLUNTARY.
The HRW report is about LTTE extortion.
Mark my words EXTORTION.
If you or anyone you know wants to direct your payroll earnings to LTTE, you should do exactly that.
Someday you will have your small land in Jaffna which is protected for you by LTTE, until you come back to the Tamil Eelam. :wink:[/quote]
Where is the word 'EXTORTION' mentioned in the context of giving money to LTTE. Does it say that any one want to give to LTTE VOLUNTARY can give it to them. NO.
Go back and read the Q.5 of the FAQ.[/quote]
HRW report is about LTTE extortion.
I said neither Canada nor anyone else has any issues if you wish to send your payrol to the LTTE.
Tigers can not break canadian law by forcefully taking money from people.
Re: Racist statement
[quote="Zulu"][quote="raguna"][recent 'terrorist' list of Canada and related FAQ.....
Question - 5: If an individual provides money to a [color=red]front organization [/color]which is believed to be associated
Answer - 5: [color=red]No[/color], only donations to the LTTE are effected by this listing.
Isn't this confusion? If you say NO, then it is realy good for LTTE!!!!![/quote]
Neither Canada nor anybodyelse had any problem of money donations made to LTTE or any other organisation as long as it is VOLUNTARY.
The HRW report is about LTTE extortion.
Mark my words EXTORTION.
If you or anyone you know wants to direct your payroll earnings to LTTE, you should do exactly that.
Someday you will have your small land in Jaffna which is protected for you by LTTE, until you come back to the Tamil Eelam. :wink:[/quote]
Where is the word 'EXTORTION' mentioned in the context of giving money to LTTE. Does it say that any one want to give to LTTE VOLUNTARY can give it to them. NO.
Go back and read the Q.5 of the FAQ.
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[quote="Zulu"][quote="raguna"]
The best thing that can happen to SriLanka is to adopt the same political setup which Canada is having. [color=red][b]True FEDERAL with the right to seperation[/b][/color]!
Sri Lanka already had a censervative (social and fiscal) government and we see it's results in the ethnic scene!!! The socialist government is NO better either! Now the ultra-socialist/sinhala nationalst JVP is comming. They even said the North-Korea setup is better suit for SL!!!!!
Look what happened in USA, conservative right? Look at the mess in Iraq![/quote]
[b]The history of the modern Canada is only few hundred years old. Canada is built by the immigrants from all over the world, on the land which was captured by the French and British then the original natives were pushed in to the Indian reserves(good analogy to defacto LTTE area) to live their life style.
Is there anything similar to this in SriLanakan history?
Now how stupid one has to be to argue, this style be adopted by SriLanka.[/b][/quote]
The argument here is about choosing a Conservative Gov. like in Canada. So it fits your agenda not to adopt a FEDERAL system which was proposed (just proposed!) in SL after 50 years of conflict. If you say you need a conservative system like Canada what similarites did you see earlier whic you are unable to see when a Federal system is sugested?
Some 'SMART' one even sugested it to far away Scandinavia too!
[quote]'....on the land which was captured by the French and British ...[/quote]
My history teacher also told me that modern day Iraq was created on the land captured by french and british. So the 'SMART' one should suggest that system to Canada too. Similarities!!!!!
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[quote="varathan"][quote]Canada is built by the immigrants from all over the world, on the land which was captured by the French and British then the original natives were pushed in to the Indian reserves(good analogy to defacto LTTE area) to live their life style.
[b]Is there anything similar to this in SriLanakan history[/b]?
Now how stupid one has to be to argue, this style be adopted by SriLanka[/quote]
Children, my history teacher told me like americans and canadian send the red indians to rural area called reserve areas, our ancestors both tamil and sinhala send vedar to maduru oya as a historical similarities. I never listen to my history teacher but I end up pass in my SSE exam anyway. :roll: :roll: :lol: :P :oops:[/quote]
If there is anyone deserves to ask for a seperata land in SriLanka, that will be Veddas.
The Canadians(I mean French and British) are most often brought to the fore front, as a good example to explain the SriLankan issue.
The first european to step in to the land now we called North America is a viking called Eric the red from Scandinavia.
The spaniards, French, British, Isrish, Italians, Chinese railway workers, East Europeans, South Asians, boat people, tamil refugees came after that.
Regardless, Canada we see today is built on the blood and sweat of these immigrants and refugees, they do promote the influx of new immigrants anf REFUGEES.
Canadians do not wish the criminals abusing the amnesty given to the refugees, what the tamil tigers are doing in Canada and Norway currently.
Now what is the status of the natives lived in North America, before the Europeans?
Some have adapted the modern life style which we call civilized(i.e. lets get the dirty work done by someone else) and live like others.
Most have been sent to a piece of land called a reserve where they can still live the life their ancestors lived, fishing hunting. There is no gov tax imposed on these people.
Now looking at the SriLankan picture can you say, who deserves to ask for a seperate land?
The new comers to Canada, French and British fought a bloody war and the French lost, got pushed to cold Quebec.
Now the majority speaks Engish even though both French and English are official languages.
Very little one can do knowing only French, outside Quebec.
This part I can see already applied in SL.(Vanni and the rest of SL)
Except the tigers are still not civilised.
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[quote]Canada is built by the immigrants from all over the world, on the land which was captured by the French and British then the original natives were pushed in to the Indian reserves(good analogy to defacto LTTE area) to live their life style.
[b]Is there anything similar to this in SriLanakan history[/b]?
Now how stupid one has to be to argue, this style be adopted by SriLanka[/quote]
Children, my history teacher told me like americans and canadian send the red indians to rural area called reserve areas, our ancestors both tamil and sinhala send vedar to maduru oya as a historical similarities. I never listen to my history teacher but I end up pass in my SSE exam anyway. :roll: :roll: :lol: :P :oops:
Bombing the civilians in Trinco is a Bala's idea to make...
The problem in Trinco make by LTTE through bombing the civilians in a market, which is a Bala's idea to give job for sinhala thugs, but it failed. Now LTTE threaten media try to make other, view but people are wakned.
I wish to tell Bala that don't beleave that tamil, sinhala or muslims people have nothing in their head. They are threatend by the LTTE then they open their mouth only for eat and drink, it's the situation of tamil people in United Srilanka. Mr. V. Pirabakaran born with a killing culture if you can analys his backround and the society he comes from.
I don't accept the TVA is democratic party who elected by tamils who voted for TNA in gun point, it's the truth, most of the tamil know it.
You talk about "etnics cleaning" few days ago in Trinco, What happend in 1985 when LTTE burned tamil freedom fighters in alive.
Totally LTTE is a Carnibals I mean that LTTE will soon eat meat of human.
I think that LTTE doesn't know what they want to discuss in the next talks, maybe beg government about Karuna who's TMVP developed fastly by LTTE.
If LTTE put down the weapons and face an democratic election then they will jump them self in the Mullaitheevu sea and swim to Norway.
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[quote="raguna"]
The best thing that can happen to SriLanka is to adopt the same political setup which Canada is having. [color=red][b]True FEDERAL with the right to seperation[/b][/color]!
Sri Lanka already had a censervative (social and fiscal) government and we see it's results in the ethnic scene!!! The socialist government is NO better either! Now the ultra-socialist/sinhala nationalst JVP is comming. They even said the North-Korea setup is better suit for SL!!!!!
Look what happened in USA, conservative right? Look at the mess in Iraq![/quote]
[b]The history of the modern Canada is only few hundred years old. Canada is built by the immigrants from all over the world, on the land which was captured by the French and British then the original natives were pushed in to the Indian reserves(good analogy to defacto LTTE area) to live their life style.
Is there anything similar to this in SriLanakan history?
Now how stupid one has to be to argue, this style be adopted by SriLanka.[/b]
Re: Racist statement
[quote="raguna"][recent 'terrorist' list of Canada and related FAQ.....
Question - 5: If an individual provides money to a [color=red]front organization [/color]which is believed to be associated
Answer - 5: [color=red]No[/color], only donations to the LTTE are effected by this listing.
Isn't this confusion? If you say NO, then it is realy good for LTTE!!!!![/quote]
Neither Canada nor anybodyelse had any problem of money donations made to LTTE or any other organisation as long as it is VOLUNTARY.
The HRW report is about LTTE extortion.
Mark my words EXTORTION.
If you or anyone you know wants to direct your payroll earnings to LTTE, you should do exactly that.
Someday you will have your small land in Jaffna which is protected for you by LTTE, until you come back to the Tamil Eelam. :wink:
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[color=red][b]Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence by the LTTE [/b][/color]
Not just Solheim on a spin, the desparate tamils are on spin too.
One only has to go and read their articles and the comments to see how these spin doctors intrepret the political statements to make themselves happy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: Wake upp brothers and sisters
[quote="masnas"]My opinion is that two other power than Srilanka and LTTE are killing our people (Tamils, muslims and sinhaleese). Everyone (not Solheim) knows that LTTE is not representate tamils. If Solheim beleave everything the LTTE says then he will have nothing in his head, I hope that Solheim will say soon to LTTE "I can't help you any more".
My question to Solheim:
Do you beleave that LTTE will come in to a democratics way or do you want to make dictator for tamils in Srilanka?
We try to understand what your position as a facilitator..........[/quote]
As a fcilitator he (solheim) has to facilitate the Talks between LTTE and SL Gov. He should NOT decide weather he wants democraic or dictatiorial LTTE or Tamil ledership to come to power. If he decide on behalf of Tamils (like India did in 1987) then he should also abe nswerable to all the atrocities committed by the SL forces. You may read the latest report on Trincomalee 'ethnic cleansing' by DBS Jeyaraj - a'democrat' himself!!!!!!
Wake upp brothers and sisters
My opinion is that two other power than Srilanka and LTTE are killing our people (Tamils, muslims and sinhaleese). Everyone (not Solheim) knows that LTTE is not representate tamils. If Solheim beleave everything the LTTE says then he will have nothing in his head, I hope that Solheim will say soon to LTTE "I can't help you any more".
My question to Solheim:
Do you beleave that LTTE will come in to a democratics way or do you want to make dictator for tamils in Srilanka?
We try to understand what your position as a facilitator..........
Re: Faq item 5
[quote="merpdarp"]According to the Faq
It's okay to contribute to an organization which is **believed** to be a front of LTTE. But the Faq is clear that no dealing with LTTE itself is allowed. [b]This means if the organization in question is proven to be linked to LTTE it [/b]( the organization ) can be prosecuted.[/quote]
When you say 'front organization' that means they have connections!!!
You don't accuse some one if there is no clear evidence.
Faq item 5
According to the Faq
It's okay to contribute to an organization which is **believed** to be a front of LTTE. But the Faq is clear that no dealing with LTTE itself is allowed. This means if the organization in question is proven to be linked to LTTE it ( the organization ) can be prosecuted.
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[quote][b]Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence by the LTTE[/b] [/quote]
Some one here is talking about 'spinning'. For them it looks a 'spin' because all their stories are 'stratght'.
There is a saying that 'for a Bat all the world look upside down'
Re: Racist statement
[quote]Norway is one starnge duck, in the so called western world.
(may be better called Scandinavian world?)
They surely takes the opposite side of what the rest of the world does.[/quote]
Just change the word 'Norway' into 'Sri Lanka' on the above quote and see. All fits very well to Sri Lanka.
[quote]Read below:
Aftenposten's Norwegian reporter
"Palestinian support status confusion
Norway's Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre's warning that support to the Hamas-led Palestinian government would be halted surprised many government colleagues. Development Minister Erik Solheim's claim of continued support and total agreement with Støre has caused additional confusion."
That was in response to:
"Understandable confusion arose when Støre told newspaper Dagbladet last weekend that "under the current situation it is not relevant for Norway to provide more direct payments to the Palestinian authorities."
[b]Solheim[/b] responded by stating that "We have not stopped any grants to the Palestinian territories, as one can have gathered via the media. We will decide upon specific grants when they are due."
Conservative Party leader Erna Solberg sternly criticized the confusion emanating from the new government."
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Solheim blessed SriLanka,
Solheim blessed LTTE[/quote]
This is same for all the countries who decleared the Hamas as 'terrorists'.
Even the US Gov. is in a confusion what to do next. They issued threats to Palestenian voters by warning Hamas led Gov.
Nothing happened!!!
Don't go too far to middle-east or Scandinivaia. Just look at the recent 'terrorist' list of Canada and related FAQ.....
Question - 5: If an individual provides money to a [color=red]front organization [/color]which is believed to be associated
Answer - 5: [color=red]No[/color], only donations to the LTTE are effected by this listing.
Isn't this confusion? If you say NO, then it is realy good for LTTE!!!!!
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[quote][b]The best thing that can happen to SriLanka is the same thing what happened to Canada.
Norwegians should elect a conservative gov.
Dump the socialists.
Norwegian socilalist think the centre of world is in Norway[/b]
There is already a growing loud voice in supportive of conservatives in Norway. There are norwegians who can think straight. We haven't lost the faith in them.[/quote]
The best thing that can happen to SriLanka is to adopt the same political setup which Canada is having. [color=red][b]True FEDERAL with the right to seperation[/b][/color]!
Sri Lanka already had a censervative (social and fiscal) government and we see it's results in the ethnic scene!!! The socialist government is NO better either! Now the ultra-socialist/sinhala nationalst JVP is comming. They even said the North-Korea setup is better suit for SL!!!!!
Look what happened in USA, conservative right? Look at the mess in Iraq!
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[quote="varathan
To be fair with the news, may be my memory is fading from alzhirmers, I don’t recall eric saying anyone can recruit child soldiers. may be I am wrong :lol: :x :wink: :oops:[/quote]
You have correctly stated;
To be fair with the news, [b]may be my memory is fading from alzhirmers[/b]
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[b]The best thing that can happen to SriLanka is the same thing what happened to Canada.
Norwegians should elect a conservative gov.
Dump the socialists.
Norwegian socilalist think the centre of world is in Norway.[/b]
There is already a growing loud voice in supportive of conservatives in Norway. There are norwegians who can think straight. We haven't lost the faith in them.
Re: Racist statement
[quote="srilankanbrain"]your article is totally biased, I am dissapointed to hear the statement LTTE friendly solheim.
He has no hidden motives to be involved in Sri Lankan process risking his life. He has only done good to Sri Lanka.
THis article sure comes from one of those loosers from JVP for sure.
Janatha Virodhi Perumana (JVP) they are all out runie are country and take our country into civil war while. Somawansa and Weerawansa live a life they never could have got in their life if not killing and raping and stealing innocent Sri lankans in the 88[/quote]
Norway is one starnge duck, in the so called western world.
(may be better called Scandinavian world?)
They surely takes the opposite side of what the rest of the world does.
Read below:
Aftenposten's Norwegian reporter
"Palestinian support status confusion
Norway's Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre's warning that support to the Hamas-led Palestinian government would be halted surprised many government colleagues. Development Minister Erik Solheim's claim of continued support and total agreement with Støre has caused additional confusion."
That was in response to:
"Understandable confusion arose when Støre told newspaper Dagbladet last weekend that "under the current situation it is not relevant for Norway to provide more direct payments to the Palestinian authorities."
[b]Solheim[/b] responded by stating that "We have not stopped any grants to the Palestinian territories, as one can have gathered via the media. We will decide upon specific grants when they are due."
Conservative Party leader Erna Solberg sternly criticized the confusion emanating from the new government."
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Solheim blessed SriLanka,
Solheim blessed LTTE.
Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
[b]I received your message moderator. Message noted.[/b]
[quote]At the first session of talks in Geneva held in February, [b]Solheim[/b] was seen bending over backwards to appease the Tigers.[/quote]
[b]First Solheim[/b]
[quote]Political observers also maintain that the [b]Royal Norwegian Foreign Ministry[/b], operating under the instructions of Solheim, tends to give a pro-LTTE spin[/quote]
[b]Then Norway[/b]
While jvp backed Kegalle, Tangale, Ragama GUYs agitating against Norway as impartial, the ltte or its people forces are exploding mines to create mayhem within Trinco, Mannar, Vidathalthivu, Pesalai and so on. Now the news is Head of Sri Lanka Monitoring Mission, [b]Maj. Gen. Henricsson [/b]will be on board a civillian vessel who assured safe travel of the Eastern LTTE Commanders in a civilian vessel without Sri Lanka Navy involvement. If he does this, I see that Sweden will be on this pro-LTTE list too as Maj.Gen Henricsson is a Good Swedish national.
In [b]future may be Sweden[/b]
[quote]In siding Balasingham he ruled that both sides are free to recruit child soldiers[/quote]
To be fair with the news, may be my memory is fading from alzhirmers, I don’t recall eric saying anyone can recruit child soldiers. may be I am wrong :lol: :x :wink: :oops:
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Solheim spins excuses for the latest escalation of violence
This is probably the last time we will see this peace talk business.
LTTE as an organisation is foolishly killing Sri Lankan troops to make a point and at the same time they are advertising to and reminding the whole world that they believe in violence,terrorism and they are nothing but a bunch of terrorists.
Things have changed dramatically since 9/11 in 2001 globally and at present the trend is against Terrorism.The super power USA and her allies are at the moment against terrorism for their survival and LTTE's actions go against their policies on principal.
LTTE leadership is very inexperienced to grasp the gravity of the international situation and the trend since the one man led team of decision makers lack proper understanding about global politics,diplomacy and strategy.Probably because they don't have the in depth knowledge and education to look at things from a different perspective.
All they are seeing is the uninterrupted and continuos flow of money from the banned countries and just statements warnning them and think it's still ok to do what they do.What they don't see is their violence slowly and surely distancing them from the Tamils and the Tamil issue.
Still we haven't even started discusssing about the North East problem or any solutions and the peace talks are at the moment centred around minor issues not related to finding a solution.This is the sixth time we are discussing with them and we have to face the fact that LTTE is not for peace.
For them peace means reaching their goal of a seperate state by discussion or by war.
It's very clear LTTE is not for a peaceful solution and very soon LTTE will give the oppurtunity to Sri Lanka to attack them.When that happens this time the international community would be backing Sri Lanka unlike the last time and the government must make it a point to conduct the war to a finish and no more ceasefires and foolish stoppages in between.
Sri Lanka should take back all the towns and areas controlled by the LTTE at any cost.Sri Lankan government mustn't forget they have the ability and resources to continue a sustain and a longer campaign.There is no way out unless the LTTE is completely destroyed as a military force without any areas under their control officially.
Re: Racist statement
What are you talking about????
Truth is truth, whether it is said by JVP or "Karuna"..... besides it looks like your "Srilankan BRAIN" has been dormant during last couple of weeks, looks like you have either not noticed (sleeping?) or purposely avoiding various articles published re the pathetic partiality shown by NO-WAY towards the blood thirsty LTTE thugs !
Has JVP invited the gang of LTTE thugs, led by the ever unpleasant Bala, to No-WAY on a red carpet and take them around to see a weapons manufacturing plant?
Wake up
[quote="srilankanbrain"]your article is totally biased, I am dissapointed to hear the statement LTTE friendly solheim.
He has no hidden motives to be involved in Sri Lankan process risking his life. He has only done good to Sri Lanka.
THis article sure comes from one of those loosers from JVP for sure.
Janatha Virodhi Perumana (JVP) they are all out runie are country and take our country into civil war while. Somawansa and Weerawansa live a life they never could have got in their life if not killing and raping and stealing innocent Sri lankans in the 88[/quote]
Racist statement
your article is totally biased, I am dissapointed to hear the statement LTTE friendly solheim.
He has no hidden motives to be involved in Sri Lankan process risking his life. He has only done good to Sri Lanka.
THis article sure comes from one of those loosers from JVP for sure.
Janatha Virodhi Perumana (JVP) they are all out runie are country and take our country into civil war while. Somawansa and Weerawansa live a life they never could have got in their life if not killing and raping and stealing innocent Sri lankans in the 88